作者 H2 (超級噴火龍X)
標題 Re: [新聞] 充電花費暴漲 3 倍 中古車價不到 2 折!T
時間 Thu Jul 18 15:31:17 2024


※ 引述《zzahoward (Cheshire Cat)》之銘言:
: 當然,你也可以說加氫站怎麼不直接拉電去電解水每天就有源源不絕氫氣可以用惹
: 電解水+加壓,我看你氫氣價格成本堪比航空燃油了
: 之前在那邊扯FCEV小車可以屌打BEV,可以自己先去買一台

氫能源車的加氫站最蠢的就在這邊!

要拉電去加氫站電解水來製氫,
那幹嘛不把這個電直接充BEV就好了?
何必脫了褲子放屁

就不說氫燃料電池在車上除了要
準備一個儲氫罐之外,
還要配一個動力電池來配套

既然這樣,
那不用大一點的動力電池
直接做BEV就好了?
還不用放儲氫罐跟燃料電池

其實大型卡車要用FCEV現在也是困難了
Tesla Semi目前看起來潛力會更好
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※ 作者: H2 2024-07-18 15:31:17
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Re: [新聞] 充電花費暴漲 3 倍 中古車價不到 2 折!T
07-18 15:31 H2
box007: 如果充電速度跟加氣一樣快,當然沒有必要發展氫燃1F 07/18 15:38

https://reurl.cc/LWYz1y
Toyota Hydrogen Future Is Crumbling As Owners File Lawsuits, Call For Buybacks
[圖]
The Toyota Mirai hydrogen project was well-intended, but some buyers feel misled on the car's capabilities and ease of use. Now they want their money  ...

 

"The Iwatani hydrogen station is fragile,
has only one working pump, and dispenses
fuel every 20 minutes. It also has a limit of
about one-third of the full tank per fill, so a
Mirai driver has to spend one hour at the
pump to fill up to 100% if the driver comes
to the station with less than 30% in the tank," Benko said. "[Last month] my M
irai completely
lost power when I was waiting in line because I had my heater on. I called Mir
ai’s emergency roadside assistance. The assistance came in an hour and rechar
ged my battery; however, the line moved up only 1 car in that time, so I was s
till an hour away from getting to the pump."

Iwatani氫氣站脆弱,只有一個運作中的泵站,
每20分鐘供氣一次。每次加氣只能加滿約三分之一
的油箱,所以如果Mirai車主的油箱少於30%,
需要在泵站待上一小時才能加滿100%。他提到,
上個月他在排隊時因為開著暖氣,Mirai完全
失去動力。他呼叫了Mirai的緊急路邊援助,
援助一小時後到達並為他的電池充電;然而,這
段時間內隊伍只前進了一輛車,所以他仍需再等
一小時才能加油。

And then there’s the freezing. Owners often show up to refuel and become stuc
k—sometimes for hours—to the pump. This has been an issue for some hydrogen
fueling stations where pumps are positioned between traditional gasoline dispe
nsers. Fueling station clerks sometimes need to corral a group of hydrogen-pow
ered vehicles lined up waiting for a car to unfreeze from the pump so they don
’t lose revenue from blocked gasoline pumps.

然後就是凍結問題。車主常常來加油站加油,
卻因為泵站凍結而卡在那裡,有時候會卡幾個
小時。這在一些氫氣加油站尤其成問題,這些
泵站位於傳統汽油機之間。加油站的工作人員
有時需要管理排隊等待的氫能源汽車群,以便讓
車輛從凍結的泵站解凍,這樣他們才不會因為
汽油泵被堵而損失收入。

H2: 多快?一樓你充過嗎?YouTube上很多國外車主充氣影
片喔,你可以看看 XD2F 07/18 15:41
TaiwanNeko: ID錯誤4F 07/18 15:51
eryaniso: 別因為豐田就死挺,去看YT影片你就滅火了5F 07/18 16:08
QuentinHu: 笑死一樓以為加氫跟加汽油一樣6F 07/18 16:12
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box007: 加氣跟加油不都屬於物理性填充,差別在壓力跟質量8F 07/18 16:18
missile16b: 加氫站要加壓到700bar,汽車輪胎胎壓約2.5bar
加氫站的壓力約輪胎壓力的280倍9F 07/18 16:18
QuentinHu: 加氫的物理壓力跟溫度就不同啊11F 07/18 16:21
※ 編輯: H2 (61.66.151.73 臺灣), 07/18/2024 17:05:53
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